Not interested in getting into a huge debate here, so this will be my final post on the topic. Scientific theory has very strict standards that have evolved from ancient greek dialectic methods. It's not my standards that are strict, it's science's! Your assumption that it is physically impossible to map the human body's internal communications is simply wrong: it is fully material and therefor can be quantified. Finally, "average for whites" sounds an awful lot like alt-right rhetoric, you should look into your own biases before pointing out other people's.
Most frustrating experience I've ever had in 20 years of gaming lol
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Midcal9
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I never said it is impossible, I said it would impassible for an individual to be aware of how your physical brain functions down to a neuron, you often times don't comprehend what I actually say.
"you are saying that you want a full map (flashy and interactive too right?) of the brain and fully grasp human cognition (which is physically impossible, you can only roughly model it, your mind doesn't have enough room to map every neuron and be aware of its actions) before you are willing to make up your mind about intelligence"
Your mind. I never talked about the impossibly of mapping it. Let me use another example, it's possible to make a blown up schismatic of your PC, it will exist, but your mind will not be able to fully conceptualize it down to every single detail. And your brain is far complex than a PC, it's an organic "mechanism".
Actually, that's how it historically happened. Other groups of people tend to score either higher or lower and yes you could shift the goal posts for them and allow other groups have their average of 100. As for my own bias, I have it and I embrace it too. I don't believe it is possible to have no bias nor do I believe it is desirable. My bias arise from the fact that I have preferences, desires and that I am not some kind of disinterested party which has no identity. That's what it would basically amount to, only something that has no identity and values could be bias free, inclination free. It all goes back to Kant and his fairly astute observation that only something which had no identity could have an objective grasp of the universe, we however do live in the world of appearances that is created by our sense modalities. You can either embrace it and make the best of it or set unrealistic standards for knowledge, always fail to meet them and have your ideals stand in your own way.
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Like I said, not interested in a debate, you're welcome to call it a win and go pop some champagne now if you like
Midcal9
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Me niether, was mistake of mine mentioning IQ, as I said. So..can you plzz tell me if there are any exceptional padded coats, lol? This is literally my most frustrating experience, I want one but I can't get it.
haha, sorry bout that, I sadly can't say, haven't played in a bit, just poped my head in to see if we had new content released. But then I saw your debate with Sylla and I honestly couldn't help myself, he's so hilllarious!
Patch note do mention exceptional soft leather was added in, but no word on padded.
Midcal9
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Nope, never seen exceptional soft leather coats either, but damn those coats look sweet. I want exceptional boots and expectational dark leather coat. Or a dark blue one. Argh! 2 weeks of looking man!
Here's the quote from the 0.6.5.4 changelog:
Reintroduced superior soft leather goods
So superior, not exceptional :/ sorry. They'll probably fill in those little "gaps" when the game is near completion, it's not unusual for devs to focus on core mechanics and core content, then back-fill secondary content just before the first release candidate.
Reintroduced superior soft leather goods
So superior, not exceptional :/ sorry. They'll probably fill in those little "gaps" when the game is near completion, it's not unusual for devs to focus on core mechanics and core content, then back-fill secondary content just before the first release candidate.
Midcal9
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Having an exceptional leather coat is my number one priority now. This is simply inexcusable and unacceptable. I demand retribution. A duel to death will suffice.
The only thing I am opposed to is the notion that IQ is everything there is to know about intelligence. I believe that intelligence is multifaceted; perhaps this is just a matter of how we choose to frame the problem of understanding general intelligence.
In Arena mode, there should be Exceptional Padded Coats. I've seen pretty much every form of equipment represented there.
In Arena mode, there should be Exceptional Padded Coats. I've seen pretty much every form of equipment represented there.
Midcal9
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WAIS IV IQ subtests;
Block Design, Matrix Reasoning, Figure Weights, Picture Completion, Symbol Search, Coding, Cancellation, Vocabulary, Information, Comprehension, Similarities, Arithmetic, Digit Span, Letter-Number Sequencing, Visual Puzzles, Logical Memory I,Logical Memory II, Visual Reproduction I, Visual Reproduction II, Verbal Paired Associates I, Verbal Paired Associates II, Designs I, Designs II, Spatial Addition, Symbol Span.
Other IQ tests have less subtests because some of these subtest are put into the same category, but you get an idea. And on it isn't everything, you also have to take personalty into account. Your personality traits plus your IQ is pretty much everything, however.
Never seen them. Neither padded nor leather exceptional coats.
Midcal9
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Welp, at least I belived. Thanks for letting us know.
Syllabear3
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I did it many times, that your iq is not enough to find out is your problem.
Why do people think a discussion is about to win/lose? Are you all insecure white males thinking that everything is a challenge to bow you down?
Now i know you are used to lose, but please dont start attacking midcal9 now. He may be a closet racist, he would need to shame women to feel confident in his white masculinity, he may be insecure about many things but he is a nice and logical guy.
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Back in the iq, factor g and whatever shietific therm they use to score human inteligence...
Is enough to me seeing that any high rated IQ person cant ejecute any task "normally" (be controling his body, a bad decision, "social interaction", feelings/sharing feelings, sensibility, common sense, controlling fears and emotions, a fucking big of etc)... be what it be, to feel that the test is complete failure.
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Tony
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Keep these types of comments off the public forums. You've been around long enough to know that personal attacks and flame bait such as this are inappropriate and will not be tolerated. Thanks.
Syllabear3
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I would tell that directly to him after all he said.
Hard to believe you didnt read it.
Nah, you did, and you agree with him. Thats what i think.
Mods powers, mods powers, never changes.
Midcal9
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Geezus..I never should have talked about IQ here. Gotta remember not to say anything about politics lol. Let's just get along and talk about some nerdy stuff. :]
"I would tell that directly to him after all he said."
And I would tell you directly what I'm all about. Then what? although, I have no idea how you came to the conclusion that I want to shame women. I don't. Sexual dimorphism is a thing and saying that men can't have children is not an attempt to shame men. I have no problem with women, or desire to harm or denigrate them, I actually happen to like them, in a romantic way.
Can you just calm down and talk about something else? Look..ermm, I like your avatar, it has a cool cat. See, we can have a common ground!
"I would tell that directly to him after all he said."
And I would tell you directly what I'm all about. Then what? although, I have no idea how you came to the conclusion that I want to shame women. I don't. Sexual dimorphism is a thing and saying that men can't have children is not an attempt to shame men. I have no problem with women, or desire to harm or denigrate them, I actually happen to like them, in a romantic way.
Can you just calm down and talk about something else? Look..ermm, I like your avatar, it has a cool cat. See, we can have a common ground!
Syllabear3
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No after what you said, and you friend jumping on me with his mod powers.
I am sorry i am such an emasculated wimp, and all people here with me. But hey, things directed to me are okay
I am sorry i am such an emasculated wimp, and all people here with me. But hey, things directed to me are okay
Midcal9
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You telling me that in your region or circle of friends/acquaintances you have got reverse sexual dimorphism did strike me as weird at best. Look, I'm not gonna apologize for what I said because I don't feel guilty nor would I say anything different in exactly the same situation but, I think you should brush it off and move on. Make a few biting jokes, consider it done and talk about something else. As for the mod, I do not know him nor do I nor you know anything about his motivations. He might dislike and disagree with everything I have just said but simply uphold the law cuz he's role playing as a Lawful Good character, ahaha.No after what you said, and you friend jumping on me with his mod powers.
I am sorry i am such an emasculated wimp, and all people here with me. But hey, things directed to me are okay
So, direct your next post at me by making a a sarcastic remark and then talk about exanima. It's that easy.
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Tony
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All forum members are expected to behave like civil human beings regardless of whether or not they agree with other's opinions and/or views. Usually "mod powers" aren't necessary on these forums but I suppose there's always an exception to the rule.
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Also, probably should get this thread back on topic since it derailed quite significantly from the OP.
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